In case any of the source files changed, openSUSE Build Service rebuilds the dependent packages regardless of whether that particular modification affects the dependency. This makes our resources footprint bigger (and the electrical power bills higher). It also affects users, because every new package build causes the package manager to include that package in the next update thus consuming network bandwidth and resources of users' computers.
Current OBS controls for package rebuild triggers
It is possible to control dependent packages build triggers on a per repository basis (see OBS build scheduling strategies). You will find an explanation on that page that any setting other than the default, which is "always rebuild", is not safe and should not be used if the packages are to be distributed. Apparently, the concern is more of a "this repository is official/testing" kind.
Which modifications justify rebuilding
First, we need to define the modifications which justify rebuilding the dependencies. This is a list which should be amended by the more knowledgeable on software builds:
new library versions or binary API changes (the latter should always cause the former?)
changes in
#includesfiles (in case of library development packages); it is preferable to verify if the dependencies can build with these modifications sooner rather than later
Possible improvements
Extend the checkin command
I suppose that this is a hard problem to solve automatically, so it is good to start small with some infrastructure to allow managing the dependencies rebuild process. We could add the "don't rebuild/must rebuild dependencies" option to the checkin command.
Make builds reproducible
There are ongoing efforts to get reproducible builds, that is if the source has not changed, then the built package should be exactly equal to the previous build too.
According to osc triggerreason on several packages in the openSUSE Build Service reference instance, quite a few rebuilds were due to md5 sum not matching. If more builds were reproducible that would obviously reduce the total number of builds. More, a reproducible build would (almost) completely remove transitive builds (see the build project attribute).
See the following pages for more information:
Reproducible builds in Fedora (security reasons are discussed more)
Questions
Is there a facility in OBS similar to the Debian's
dh_buildinfo? Would that be useful in OBS? Is there a way to keep that information within the existing infrastructure?How are md5 sums produced?
Resources
osc triggerreason --helposc jobhistory --help
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Testing and adding GNU/Linux distributions on Uyuni by juliogonzalezgil
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Uyuni is a configuration and infrastructure management tool that saves you time and headaches when you have to manage and update tens, hundreds or even thousands of machines. It also manages configuration, can run audits, build image containers, monitor and much more!
Currently there are a few distributions that are completely untested on Uyuni or SUSE Manager (AFAIK) or just not tested since a long time, and could be interesting knowing how hard would be working with them and, if possible, fix whatever is broken.
For newcomers, the easiest distributions are those based on DEB or RPM packages. Distributions with other package formats are doable, but will require adapting the Python and Java code to be able to sync and analyze such packages (and if salt does not support those packages, it will need changes as well). So if you want a distribution with other packages, make sure you are comfortable handling such changes.
No developer experience? No worries! We had non-developers contributors in the past, and we are ready to help as long as you are willing to learn. If you don't want to code at all, you can also help us preparing the documentation after someone else has the initial code ready, or you could also help with testing :-)
The idea is testing Salt and Salt-ssh clients, but NOT traditional clients, which are deprecated.
To consider that a distribution has basic support, we should cover at least (points 3-6 are to be tested for both salt minions and salt ssh minions):
- Reposync (this will require using spacewalk-common-channels and adding channels to the .ini file)
- Onboarding (salt minion from UI, salt minion from bootstrap scritp, and salt-ssh minion) (this will probably require adding OS to the bootstrap repository creator)
- Package management (install, remove, update...)
- Patching
- Applying any basic salt state (including a formula)
- Salt remote commands
- Bonus point: Java part for product identification, and monitoring enablement
- Bonus point: sumaform enablement (https://github.com/uyuni-project/sumaform)
- Bonus point: Documentation (https://github.com/uyuni-project/uyuni-docs)
- Bonus point: testsuite enablement (https://github.com/uyuni-project/uyuni/tree/master/testsuite)
If something is breaking: we can try to fix it, but the main idea is research how supported it is right now. Beyond that it's up to each project member how much to hack :-)
- If you don't have knowledge about some of the steps: ask the team
- If you still don't know what to do: switch to another distribution and keep testing.
This card is for EVERYONE, not just developers. Seriously! We had people from other teams helping that were not developers, and added support for Debian and new SUSE Linux Enterprise and openSUSE Leap versions :-)
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FUSS
FUSS is a complete GNU/Linux solution (server, client and desktop/standalone) based on Debian for managing an educational network.
https://fuss.bz.it/
Seems to be a Debian 12 derivative, so adding it could be quite easy.
[W]Reposync (this will require using spacewalk-common-channels and adding channels to the .ini file)[W]Onboarding (salt minion from UI, salt minion from bootstrap script, and salt-ssh minion) (this will probably require adding OS to the bootstrap repository creator) --> Working for all 3 options (salt minion UI, salt minion bootstrap script and salt-ssh minion from the UI).[W]Package management (install, remove, update...) --> Installing a new package works, needs to test the rest.[I]Patching (if patch information is available, could require writing some code to parse it, but IIRC we have support for Ubuntu already). No patches detected. Do we support patches for Debian at all?[W]Applying any basic salt state (including a formula)
Create a page with all devel:languages:perl packages and their versions by tinita
Description
Perl projects now live in git: https://src.opensuse.org/perl
It would be useful to have an easy way to check which version of which perl module is in devel:languages:perl. Also we have meta overrides and patches for various modules, and it would be good to have them at a central place, so it is easier to lookup, and we can share with other vendors.
I did some initial data dump here a while ago: https://github.com/perlpunk/cpan-meta
But I never had the time to automate this.
I can also use the data to check if there are necessary updates (currently it uses data from download.opensuse.org, so there is some delay and it depends on building).
Goals
- Have a script that updates a central repository (e.g.
https://src.opensuse.org/perl/_metadata) with metadata by looking at https://src.opensuse.org/perl/_ObsPrj (check if there are any changes from the last run) - Create a HTML page with the list of packages (use Javascript and some table library to make it easily searchable)
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